Archive:2007 Workshops/Free Music and Remix Culture
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Leaders: Jace Clayton and Antenna Alliance
- 1 Free Culture Music Is of Lacking Quality
- 2 The Agenda of This Working Group
- 2.1 Discussion
- 2.1.1 Are you making multi-track recordings?
- 2.1.2 Artists cool with it?
- 2.1.3 Problems with signed groups?
- 2.1.4 Which projects exist?
- 2.1.5 Are all projects multitrack? Issues with multi
- 2.1.6 Do we value final product or remix-ability?
- 2.1.7 http://renewmedia.org
- 2.1.8 Filmmakers expectations / limitations
- 2.1.9 Fear of not being able to cash-in on a big break
- 2.1.10 Entering new communities
- 2.1.11 Xu going to JA this summer to work with Students Expressing Truth
- 2.1.12 Building on mp3-sharing
- 2.1.13 Downloading as common cultural practice
- 2.1.14 Ant All trying to get non-profit status
- 2.1.15 How do I make my 3000$ back?
- 2.1.16 Pre-pay model
- 2.1.17 What is Soot records?
- 2.1.18 Anxiety with releasing source material
- 2.2 Antenna Alliance State
- 2.1 Discussion
Free Culture Music Is of Lacking Quality
- But Free Culture is an great opportunity to release work.
- A number of bands are interested in Antenna Alliance to release work
The Agenda of This Working Group
- How can Free Culture be brought to these existing music communities?
- To artists that are already producing great music.
- A Question: How Does Antenna Alliance distribute their music to Radio Stations?
- Probably discs for now
- We're obviously going to be offering music for download on our website.
- So far, if Artists give AA CDs, they distribute them and help, but they haven't formally set up anything in general.
- We ask the musicians, what do you want on the one sheet that accompanies the CD?
- A pink sticker?
- This means that it is free, that you won't have to pay license work for.
- Does the license cover webcasting royalties?
- Yes, it does
- But it is separate, and not covered by Creative Commons license.
- But how do we make the case for Free Culture? And make it clear and understandable?
- Q: Though it is good that bands such as [redacted] are on board, it is hard for a lot of people to build off of "rock" songs. It's too processed. So does AA have any plans to involve hip-hop? Boston has a great scene, even if it's not totally marketable.
- A: Rock and noise music -- we're trying to get the source tracks. The drum track, etc. So we get two versions. One "the source", similar to the FSF's definition of source. This is the best.
- When we initially looked at local hip-hop: the problem is a lot of the beats that they're using are borrowed and no one really knows how to progress with respect to royalties.
- Suggestion: Find sampleable records. Source material that works.
- AA: It is really a question of man power. There are only a few people who show up to AA meetings, but we just don't quite have the man power right now. There are so few people working for us.
- So we have to improve CC music as a recording collective.
- But the curatorial model is something important to point out.
- We think one of the big failures of ccMixter is lack of curation.
- AA will hopefully provide some kind of curatorial role.
Are you making multi-track recordings?
AA makes two types of recordings.
- Live recordings: on-air, touring bands, etc
- Multi-track projects
Artists cool with it?
- Only difficulty is withh legal framework for multitrack
Problems with signed groups?
- (rock/pop?) Bands on indie labels tend to have permissive contracts
- AA has had deals fail because of this contract question
- Bands contact AA and usually know their own situation, so if they can't participate, they probably won't make that call.
Which projects exist?
- Blanks multitracks (pre-date AA)
Are all projects multitrack? Issues with multi
- (from Northeastern studio engineer)
- haven't done many complex multitrack sessions. case-by-case and that case hasn't arisen.
- worth the time or effort? especially if artist wouldnÂ´t otherwise record in multitrack
- (from photography standpoint)
- is it worth my time to provide RAW files for EVERY photo i share?
- finding a happy medium.
- should filmmakers provide 100 hours of uncut footage?
- AA prioritizes artists more willing to provide free bits get priority
Do we value final product or remix-ability?
- Final product because ultimately seeking airplay on college radio
- connecting to amazon unbox
- offering huge range of licensing
Filmmakers expectations / limitations
- sharing useful documentary footage
- replicable to music community?
- (AA) maybe not because there isn't an easy analogy to music creation/ production
Fear of not being able to cash-in on a big break
- "big break" mythology refuted by the success of dangermouse following grey album
- growing up in permission/control society creates a fear
- people enjoy free culture values (remix, hypertext) even if they don't identify it
- (dj rupture) lack of trust in other communities
- exploitation internal (JA, trinidad) and external
- rampant, damaging bootlegging
- danger mouse analogy can not be broadly applied
- artist working with WFMU okay with liberal release but want control over the final mixdown
Entering new communities
- JA artists make money mostly by selling all rights in dubplate situations and generally getting paid fairly little
Xu going to JA this summer to work with Students Expressing Truth
- Education for inmates
- Computer skills
- Recording studio
Building on mp3-sharing
- Adding social, financial component to this exchange
- Connecting djs, producers, listeners, fans
- Remaining conscious of the culture and context of music
- mp3 / wav is but a small piece
Downloading as common cultural practice
- Grey Tuesday adds a social component
- downhill battle creates a portal, touchstone
- made it more attractive for artists
- Can AntAll perform this role today?
Ant All trying to get non-profit status
- Easier to accept donations
- Establish studio
How do I make my 3000$ back?
- Release your work under CC license
- Press CDs and sell them at your show
- Leverage AA exposure
- (dj/r) Tee shirts, merch sale
- (dj/r) hybrid techniques
- free in one place
- for sale in others
- silkscreen posters
- things that people would like to take home with them
- music videos
- fans contribute $ toward a future recording project
- existing example http://artistshare.com/
- examples from DVD/video world
- do the same values apply to music? limited future?
- prince gives CD away with every concert ticket
What is Soot records?
- artists working between electronic beat production, africa/ north africa traditional folk musics
- interested in CC licenses BUT...
- scale is so small that giving away music on the internet doesn't seem to affect sales
- grassroots collabo
- remix culture (12"s with acapella, instrumental versions)
Anxiety with releasing source material
- some musicians don't want to have their music mixed with just ANYTHING (think: mickey mouse / porn fear)
- there haven't been many (any?) examples of negative consequences from releasing the source material
- performance anxiety
- don't like your vocal performance dry and out of instrumental context
- remix anxiety
- many remixes are really bad..
- artists often very personally invested in their recordings
Antenna Alliance State
- Jamaica Project
- Partnership with 10 radio stations
- Boston noise compilation
- nine tracks cut to vinyl
- cc by sa
- Curating music collection for OLPC
- Tam tam